Best Search Crafting Language

Ranik · October 1, 2025, 4:58pm

this is a discussion post I will be happy for anyone to try and change my mind!

right now I am convinced the meta best language is Armenian.

I am looking for 3 combo crafts which you need in close to every run: Bow Bed Anchor Gold Pick for Forts | Bed Garrot Ingot Axe Sword(+bars if you want) | Powder Eyes no backspace.

also a universal best language needs 2x2 crafts which make the gameplay more consistent and remove brain rng.

and of course the least junk you can on the rest of the crafts!

I think armenian comes the CLOSEST to that - it has almost a junkless bow bed anchor gold pick - ետ եւ երա 8. The junk in this craft is all picks, the junk can be removed with correct inventory management. Armenian has pretty much a perfect bastion craft - եւ ե_գ ե_ձ +8 +5 which only has iron pants as junk in +5. Has powder eyes no backspace no junk, no explaination needed.

with the introduction of Shift Home it has become viable to remove combos entirely with the problem of it being physically harder and taking a lot of keyboard space in languages like Thai for example which is really close but has junk in ingots which isn’t great anyway. I havent seen any language other than thai that actually becomes better than armenian or thai in terms of junk and backspaceless eyes - Thai.

if you think you find a better language and think it’s actually viable with everything listed above feel free to discuss it here!

r0hkx · October 1, 2025, 5:05pm

While Armenian might technically be the best language, I don’t think it’s fair to fully ignore the difficulty in learning it. Mostly the script being really difficult to read for those who don’t already know the language.

There’s also a difficult-to-grasp quality of languages in how easy or difficult it is to make an ergonomic layout. This quality is definitely different for each person, and changes with things like where you put your chat key for example, but I do feel like I was able to make a really ergonomic Danish layout that wasn’t possible in Lux. Admittedly I haven’t tried to make an Armenian layout so I don’t know for myself, but I don’t think that an “objective best” language exists for everyone.

Ranik · October 1, 2025, 5:32pm

while it’s true that armenian is not that easy to read, the quantity of information you need to learn is really low, you need to learn about 15 startings of words to remember them all which you can remember in less than a few hours. it helps that armenian looks like latin in a sense of the letters like ե that looks like t or ի that looks like h. Let’s give an example of:

you can remember it by remember that it starts with 2 u’s and is short compared to other enchants.

in terms of difficulty of making a layout, you’re right that it’s not easy to make a layout on every language and should be said, like in lux for example that it’s pretty much mandatory to make a 2nd layout which isn’t easy or comfortable to use. I would like to say that in armenian specifically it’s really easy to make a 1 layer layout because of how much overlap happens in armenian like 7 crafts use ր, 6 crafts use ւ and 5 crafts use ե.

my layout for example:

r0hkx · October 1, 2025, 5:41pm

That is definitely a good sign for the ergonomics of a language, maybe I should try it out…

amartema · October 1, 2025, 5:45pm

I think Norwegian is pretty good aswell. It fulfills most of your requirements:

Bow Bed Anchor Gold Pick: ue → ul_ → ullha → shift+home → iv (0 junk) with the benefit that you can easily incorporate stuff like gapple (ul_ → ulle → ullha) or bars (iv → itt) or anchors+ingots+bars (nk → nb → ngi, this is the only one with any potential junk)

Bed Garrot Ingot Axe Sword Bars: ro → rn/rr → rnø → rng → rnsv. This can have junk, but it’s very manageable, especially if you drop certain items before crafting (mainly leather, gold and dirt, crafting iron ingots into nuggets will also help). You can avoid most of the junk by doing rø in the beginning instead of ro if you don’t need garrots.

Powder Eyes: ep → erø. Powder Eyes is honestly one of Norwegians biggest weaknesses as this craft is with backspace and still can have carpet as junk, however, if you clear your inventory at the spawner you can get a no junk no backspace craft by searching er.

2x2 crafts: h (nether bricks + wool) → lø (glowstone) shift+home nn (sticks). Doing this with shift+home is very unrealistic as you’ll probably be overlapping this with blaze kills anyways, but the fact that wool is single character is very helpful as it allows you to overlap it with any other 2x2.

All of the other crafts are pretty much junkless, plus Norwegian has A LOT of very situational (but imo very good) random overlaps/crafts, like for example bed+sticks+ingots+axe, boat+bed, crossbow+beds or gold nuggets+wool.

The language is also very closely related to English, making learning subtitles/advancements/enchants trivial for anybody who speaks english at a basic level.

I can’t really estimate how easy it is to make a good layout, but most of the crafts use the letters l, r n and ø, so it’s probably not that bad. I can fit everything into a single layer while keeping some redundant keybinds which can situationally help (like 4, 5 and 8).

Here’s the full doc ^_^